tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post1909019400320290290..comments2023-10-24T02:50:58.489-07:00Comments on Rage of Bahamut Guide: Holy War Tactics (Order Rank)Lucardahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-22415789253760736352013-01-08T21:25:36.709-08:002013-01-08T21:25:36.709-08:00Oddly enough. Despite my knowledge I am notorious ...Oddly enough. Despite my knowledge I am notorious for my lazyness, my current order leader can vouch for me on that. <br /><br />As a result I have never run an order, only consulted. I have no idea how many attack leaders can be assigned per level. But you should also know that I believe only one is necessary.<br /><br />Attack leads don't earn extra points, but they give extra points. You only take an attack lead for the buff to break the defense leader. So, in my view you should only need up to 3, ever. If you are starting wars without one of your top 3 attackers there, you are making mistakes that extra attack leads wouldn't help with. Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-24838571143490282962013-01-08T21:08:21.989-08:002013-01-08T21:08:21.989-08:00Nice Blog. Do you know the bracket of the number o...Nice Blog. Do you know the bracket of the number of attack leaders can be assigned per order level?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15492062663960563883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-48074293541265358742012-12-05T07:36:17.549-08:002012-12-05T07:36:17.549-08:00I prefer to max them because then you can start sk...I prefer to max them because then you can start skilling the final form as well. I don't think the buffs will make up for the stat loss from using non-evo'd Mithril Golems.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-35094367432887470162012-12-05T07:07:46.294-08:002012-12-05T07:07:46.294-08:00Great blog. Thanks for all the great info. For a...Great blog. Thanks for all the great info. For a wall breaker deck you suggested three breaker cards. I currently have 2x mithril golems and 1x mithril golem+. My plan was to max each out and evolve. Would I be better served maxing out what I have and keeping the cards seperate to stack their bonuses?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18186085677801361105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-90988951626488312892012-11-22T08:13:49.237-08:002012-11-22T08:13:49.237-08:00Good point! Sometimes you operate at a loss initia...Good point! Sometimes you operate at a loss initially in order to attain long term gain.<br /><br />There are a lot of good players out there carrying their orders and always looking for better orders to join so if you're in the top 500 you can get those guys looking your way.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-78527188549934749632012-11-21T23:08:34.984-08:002012-11-21T23:08:34.984-08:00Your reply from October 4th I feel misses another ...Your reply from October 4th I feel misses another valid point, if you invest in a hw and don't finish in the top 100 where the rewards make it worthwhile, but finish say in the top 500, you are more likely to attract stronger players to the order, which long term makes it a very much worthwhile investment, our first hw we finished around the 5000 mark, invested heavily and made 1008 after that we attracted some stronger players to the order and last war we made 244 now we attract strong players and next war looking to get even higher, a very much worth initial investment ! :)Mumbles841https://www.blogger.com/profile/01299790836653163996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-86149593428593653372012-11-18T08:23:13.522-08:002012-11-18T08:23:13.522-08:00I recommend a 3 Wallbreaker deck. The buff is on y...I recommend a 3 Wallbreaker deck. The buff is on your entire deck so if three trigger you'll start demolishing the walls.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-75729155623007751162012-11-18T06:08:43.354-08:002012-11-18T06:08:43.354-08:00When building a wall breaker deck do you just atta...When building a wall breaker deck do you just attack with your wall breakers or does the skill if activated work for all your cards?<br /><br />Do you see any value in having two wall breaker cards or is it the more the merrier so to speak. <br /><br />Great site and advice thanks. ROB or CODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06279805343606965293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-77224451512332845692012-10-08T10:55:52.781-07:002012-10-08T10:55:52.781-07:00There are a couple factors that I've seen.
On...There are a couple factors that I've seen.<br /><br />One seems to be the % of defense points the player has left reduces the % of points. This also gives way to a nifty glitch. If somebody has a total of 11Def points because they shoved all their points in attack, they seem to give 90% of their point value no matter how many times you attack them.<br /><br />Besides that I think if they have a higher holy war rank than you by a decent margin you get extra points. If the player is being farmed constantly by your order, you're better off targeting a fresh target.<br /><br />So: % of total defense points they are at and individual rank. I've noticed on my low level account though that if they're much higher level they seem to pay bonus as well.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-20790053872104413232012-10-07T23:29:34.871-07:002012-10-07T23:29:34.871-07:00Quick question: when in a battle in the HW, what f...Quick question: when in a battle in the HW, what factors determine how much points someone is giving out? Not talking about no wall boosts but as an individual?<br /><br />Thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16179659779381940933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-56578675868642283982012-10-05T06:52:44.532-07:002012-10-05T06:52:44.532-07:00I virtually never farm the order leader, I farm th...I virtually never farm the order leader, I farm the entire team on rotation. It is a strategy some lose, I normally don't recommend it.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-46597972300465646062012-10-05T00:51:17.234-07:002012-10-05T00:51:17.234-07:00What about switching the order leader..? If the or...What about switching the order leader..? If the order leader is level 20, you should be able to cut down the 1, 5x multiple Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09973186887866470187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-64984394281955101902012-10-04T14:44:29.855-07:002012-10-04T14:44:29.855-07:00Thanks. I'm only ~3 weeks in and solo'd t...Thanks. I'm only ~3 weeks in and solo'd the puppet master and got myself into the 10k bracket without using any HP/CW. (I got mad lucky with a SSR I was able to turn into 3 4max Clays for my attack deck, and I've since added a 4max Master Archer I've been working on lately.<br /><br />I've had some interest from a couple Orders and joined one today...so I guess I'm trying to figure out how much any HP investment to risk, and measure the amount of risk vs potential reward. <br /><br />It'd be easier to justify in a very top tier Order for the reason you list...but when the end reward is more or less unknown...you get my point.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00828122553041560741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-11260103202575878122012-10-04T14:34:37.317-07:002012-10-04T14:34:37.317-07:00Ah, you're missing a couple things. I'll b...Ah, you're missing a couple things. I'll be doing a post on it because now that HW fever will set in people may want to know my logic but to give you an idea beforehand.<br /><br />1) Double down. If you spend that much HP and your order does as well, not only do you get a great reward from personal ranking, but your order ranking gets you a great reward. If you're in an inactive order, obviously it isn't as profitable.<br /><br />2) 200 is a large amount to ask. Generally only top 100 orders ask that and you can normally sell the SR you get for top 100 for over 200hp, so yes its worth it. This isn't counting the additional you get for personal ranking and the additional HR+ cardpacks.<br /><br />That's a little of it but I'll be posting more either today or tomorrow.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-46903692376733193182012-10-04T14:02:06.002-07:002012-10-04T14:02:06.002-07:00First off, thank you for all the work you do here....First off, thank you for all the work you do here. It's a VERY valuable resource. <br /><br />But here's my question about the upcomming HW...you mention how spending HP is "worth it" and I've seen some of the higher ranked Orders talk about 200+HP expendatures. I'm just not seeing how that's worth it unless you're REALLY in the top tiers of rewards. And even then, for some of the past HPs I've looked at (this will be my first) the rewards just don't seem worth it. <br /><br />What am I missing?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00828122553041560741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-77459550850181152242012-08-29T10:27:31.378-07:002012-08-29T10:27:31.378-07:00Thanks! And I agree on 5.5.Thanks! And I agree on 5.5.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-39443412548896042192012-08-29T03:13:33.188-07:002012-08-29T03:13:33.188-07:00Just wanted to say great guide man. Alot of this i...Just wanted to say great guide man. Alot of this info I have been taking back to my order. Unfortunately me and 5 members carried our order to the top 300 with 37 wins. Its unbearable to see inactive members reap the rewards when I personally put 200 hp into hw. Ps. Hw 5.5 was a joke.rogue3_03https://www.blogger.com/profile/13863304917354989477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-55881367866371448392012-08-25T08:41:22.294-07:002012-08-25T08:41:22.294-07:00If he was attacking at the same time or watching f...If he was attacking at the same time or watching for it he could have been using HP as you attacked. <br /><br />Otherwise he should have been losing defensive points unless there's a new glitch.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-16570697017333441582012-08-25T02:07:41.415-07:002012-08-25T02:07:41.415-07:00So I just had several people "blitz" a d...So I just had several people "blitz" a defense defense with 50 point attack decks, but it never showed the defense leader losing any points. Do you know why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-62733802677210507432012-08-15T16:13:32.926-07:002012-08-15T16:13:32.926-07:00Saving. Knowing that Holy Wars come about once eve...Saving. Knowing that Holy Wars come about once every 30 days. They aren't really tough to predict. (Outside of the next one of course)<br /><br />Besides that, my real question is why somebody who can't scrounge up 100HP determines that they deserve to be in a top 300 Order?<br /><br />You mention that you need your HP for HR and SR cards that you need to upgrade your deck. Well those guys who spend 300-500HP carrying their order, they could always use that to buy HR/SR instead of carrying people who put themselves before the order.<br /><br />But if everyone in the order brought 100HP, that guy wouldn't have to spend that.<br /><br />I'd rather have a person with a 60k attack deck who has 100HP than a person with an 80k attack deck with 10HP.<br /><br />As for coming up with it with 3-4 days notice. A couple holy wars ago I sold two Nightmares I was enhancing for my deck to make sure I'd have HP to contribute.<br />Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-79862859046498105912012-08-15T15:49:00.569-07:002012-08-15T15:49:00.569-07:00I agree that a winning order needs members who can...I agree that a winning order needs members who can put in what's required to win, but you make it sound like 100HP is something like chump change anyone can easily scrounge together. I don't know what you do to get HP, but for everyone else who isn't sitting on a ton of capital, earning HP in large quantities just to spend on attacks is really hard. Any HP I get gets poured into getting all those HR and SR cards I need to upgrade my deck. Short of becoming a feeder service (which I've tried, and it's not very lucrative) how would you justify someone coming up 100+HP for a HW when they only give you 3-4 days notice before one happens?dark494https://www.blogger.com/profile/02174011831366347526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-25286290680426218442012-08-15T15:39:54.872-07:002012-08-15T15:39:54.872-07:00It's 50 attack points no matter how much defen...It's 50 attack points no matter how much defense they have. It was a safeguard they put in to prevent people from spamming attacks from 1 goblin decks on the defense leaders.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-61636995693838303412012-08-15T15:33:00.238-07:002012-08-15T15:33:00.238-07:00Hi Lucarda,
thanks for your great guide. It really...Hi Lucarda,<br />thanks for your great guide. It really enlightend me on many points I did not understand before (pity I found your posting *after* last holy war ;-)<br /><br />My Order's currently wondering: you have that example with a def-leader with 200 def and you have to hit him at least with a 50-atk-deck to deminish his defence -- are the 50 atk-points a given figure, or does it always have to be a fifth of his def-points? <br /><br />Thanks a lot again!Astaldielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15748140366456627069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-68104993876985612312012-08-11T10:09:53.998-07:002012-08-11T10:09:53.998-07:00Somebody in your order needs to declare a war for ...Somebody in your order needs to declare a war for you to enter into the matchmaking scenario.Lucardahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792067241643799536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9121760049799283456.post-23505294351867202752012-08-10T10:34:40.515-07:002012-08-10T10:34:40.515-07:00Can you be declared war on without you ever declar...Can you be declared war on without you ever declaring war? Like can someone declare war on u. If that makes sence.Str8gooberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07186863390076499945noreply@blogger.com