This will be a shorter post with less explanation than most of my
others. I'm assuming if you're reading this post that you have red most
of my 'Best R/HR/SR Deck' posts.
This post takes into account current Bazaar pricing on cards and the
power level you get for the deck. The decks I'm using are somewhat
gimmicky but I'll explain how I selected these decks. These are assuming
4max evolutions.
Best 'Cheap' HR Deck: Demon-Attack
1st Card: Minotaur - 15.1k attack - Big Hit to Defense (all)
2nd Card: Minotaur - 15.1k attack - Big Hit to Defense (all)
3rd Card: Ark Dragon - 16.9k attack - Big Hit to Gods Defense
4th Card: Ark Dragon - 16.9k attack - Big Hit to Gods Defense
5th Card: Ark Dragon - 16.9k attack - Big Hit to Gods Defense
I can honestly say there is no such thing as a 'cheap' demon deck. For example, Ark Dragon is a sub par Berserker, but costs 2x as much. If you're looking for cheap you rolled the wrong realm. For this deck I used two Minotaur for the two top spots for the debuff. After some math it wasn't worth it to pack in a third Minotaur. All cards are approximately 10-13HP each. The reason I don't recommend 5 Arks and attacking only god realm is because Ark has a lower base than Apsara meaning you'll probably lose more than you win.
Final rough attack of somewhere around 81k with 16% debuffs which is a bit disappointing.
Approximate Cost: 200-260HP depending on prices.
Best 'Cheap' HR Deck: Demon-Defense
1st Card: Wraith - 14.5k defense - Big Boost to Demon Defense
2nd Card: Chimaera - 16.9k defense - Big Hit to Foes Demon Attack
3rd Card: Chimaera - 16.9k defense - Big Hit to Foes Demon Attack
4th Card: Chimaera - 16.9k defense - Big Hit to Foes Demon Attack
5th Card: Chimaera - 16.9k defense - Big Hit to Foes Demon Attack
This deck revolves around the fact that demons are the most regular attackers while maintaining a high base and a sure proc on your wraith. This deck hits 92k defense as well as powerful demon debuffs when you are attacked by demon realm.
Approximate Cost: 200-230HP depending on prices
FINAL ALTERNATIVE DECK-What I would probably do if I wanted to push offense and defense. (what I would really do is pump pure offense and use rares on my defense).
3rd Card: Scylla - 15k/16.3k - Big Hit to Foes Man Atk/Def
4th Card: Scylla - 15k/16.3k - Big Hit to Foes Man Atk/Def
5th Card: Witch Commander - 16.5k/14.8k - Big Boost to Holy War Points
Attack Deck 1st/2nd Card: Minotaur - 15.1k attack - Big Hit to Defense (all)
Defense Deck 1st/2nd Card: Chimaera - 16.9k Defense - Big Hit to Foes Demon Defense
Offense hits around 76k with a full enemy debuff and with some man debuffing. Defense covers for 81k and some demon/man debuffing. The WC will boost points during holy war. Scylla, Chimaera, and Minotaur are pretty much as low in price as they'll ever be with high base stats so when you resell you won't lose much. The way I look at it since the cheap demon realm decks aren't going to break 100k it's better to go a solid attack/defense and have the extra 60-100HP left for Holy Wars.
Total Cost: 340ish HP
I didn't think the minotaur was a buff to attack, but a debuff to defense.
ReplyDeleteWhoops. In my defense I was looking at every card in the game when making it. Sometimes things don't line up.
DeleteCorrected.
DeleteNo worries. Thanks a ton for your blog!
ReplyDeleteI was wondering, since Demon cards are much more expensive, can I just mix my deck with some Man or Gods cards since it is much cheaper? Will it have any effect on me as a Demon realm? I was looking at Elder Homu, Master Samurai and High Priestess for my deck, aside from Minotaur, Chimaera and Scylla.
ReplyDeleteMixing realms isn't normally helpful because you want to stack buffs more often than not.
DeleteIf you are going to go other realm, I suggest pure other realm. For example a lot of demon users use Claymore x3 and 2 Alchemist because of the inexpensive nature of the cards and high power output.
But mixing realms within a deck isn't beneficial unless all your skills are debuffs.
I suggest u stick to a single realm , even if ur demon realm, unless hybrid decks can be good but are most often ineffective , I suggest building a man atk deck if ur going to build, u can get lupins for 10ish hp and msam, or seekers for wings for exetremly cheap
ReplyDeleteI agree.
DeleteI think you are overly negative about the demon alignment. It was true 2 months ago but the developers were pretty successful at balancing the game with the recent price drops (they probably issued more DEM cards from in-game purchases).
ReplyDeleteWhen we look at the DEM defense relative to the MAN defense, it’s certainly competitive (82.5k vs 84k), significantly cheaper and with a better secondary debuff (better to defend against demon than man).
The DEM attack is somewhat disappointing but with all things being equal inside the realm of cheap HR decks, it's not a disaster if you simulate a fight between the attacks/defense of MAN/GOD/DEM.
It's possible I'm too negative about it, but I do main demon realm while working on a man secondary so I regularly notice first hand the differences.
Deletehey there, remember that I once ask you about skill procs in a battle and you say that attacker skills procs first followed by defending skills? Ok so now, I just want to make sure something. So, lets take Hekate as the attacker in a 100k base atk(only her skill procs) against Muse as defender in a 100k base def(again only her skill procs). Since you say that attacker skill procs first, this will increase the attack to 115k. Followed by Muse which will give a debuff to that attack by 15%. So, the 15% debuff is on the total which is the 115k or the base? (assuming all skill level at 1).
ReplyDeleteIf I'm not wrong debuff happens first. So Muse debuff Hetake then hetake gets her boost.
DeleteAttack deck occurs first. That's why in theory debuffs are better than buffs.
DeleteBtw the best hr deck for demon atm is 5 dragonewt princess or 4 dragonewt and 1 NM I think. Selling my ark and trow atm to fund 3 dragonewt.
ReplyDeleteShe seems a little expensive at around 70hp per card atm.
DeleteNo, the best Demon atm would be NM lead, 2 Dragonewt, and 2 Trow if I'm not mistaken.
DeleteIt's possible that 1 NM, 3Dragonewt, and 1 Trow could be it though.
@Sabien, I bought 12 bases at about 55hp each today.
Delete@Lucarda,I'm making 6-10 Newts. Anyway the reason I want to get rid of trow is mainly cause it really sucks when she triggers...
I currently just built 2 newts and I have 2 Nm and a trow. Decisions...
I have a question for you. I bought a hild today on the bazaar for 35hp. It's 13.6k atk and skill 2. Do you think ill be able to flip it for 45 or 50 HP.
ReplyDeleteMaybe 40 on a good day. I don't watch god realm fluctuations though.
Deletehey lucarda, im trying to get the cait sith for my god attack. how many more months/events should it take to make a harvest girl to become the next empusa?
ReplyDeleteEh. Collectors are hard to predict. I really wish I hadn't used my Empusa's to enhance cards back in the day but I didn't know Rage discontinued cards. That being said, I can't really predict possible prices for collectors, but if you want to retain value hold them in their original forms so collectors can combine them for all 4 art pieces.
DeleteI don't think Harvest girl will ever net the price of Empusa though. Dat Ass and all.
I was actually wondering if Slime Elena was going tot be the next Empusa.
DeleteEnjoying your guide a lot man. I play a lot of the same game especially a big league of legends fan. Looking forward to the section on alt accs. Keepup the good work.
ReplyDeleteRajjin
Thanks for the reply lucarda. Why would a person want to collect all the cards? And what event was empusa obtained in?
ReplyDeleteAfter getting all the bonus' I don't see a reason for me to collect any cards.
DeleteSome people though take a lot of pride in having a complete archive. Empusa...I think it was silver coin packs on HW 1 and 2.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
im semi new to rage and wondering what the best way to burn the rares I have collected over the last few months. I will never use, and they are kinda hard to get rid of in the bazaar.
ReplyDelete1Hp each at bazaar, if they're not moving fast enough 1 or 2 CW each at bazaar.
DeleteHi Lucarda, would like to hear your thoughts on an anti-man demon deck.
ReplyDeleteI recently looked and realise that the new card "Nekomata" has a sick attack and does a big hit to man. What are your thoughts on making a cheap and effective anti-man deck which could probably take down half ass lance decks which have a mix of lance/paladin/longi/captain?
The price of Neko doesn't really warrant it. Most Lance decks if they are currently mixed will be rocking a SK10 paladin in spot 1 and Lance in 2 and 3 before the captains.
DeleteYou'd need to skill up the Neko to be a contender and for the price I just don't see it being worth it.
Ic, anyway thanks for the tips Lucarda. I heed your advice and and just finished my newt,newt,nm,newt,trow deck. Just need to finish getting the skills to 10 on the newts.
DeleteThanks for the help!
can I use 2 mino, 1 luciella, 1 saccharine witch & witch commander? the total atk will be 73k unbuffed. how do u say? pls advise me thx :D
ReplyDeleteThere is a typo in the chims :P they are big hit to deamons ATT :D:)
ReplyDeleteawesome guide :D i will stick to that demon defense :)
Fixed.
Deletewhat's your take on the combination skills gods/demons boost to atk or deff with the new cards that were introduced talking about the demon realm cards Eligos/Marsyas and Hamelin,the last 2 outrank our current option for our mainslot in the highrare defence Wraith,Marsyas get's more than 18 k defence and hamelin even more than 20k he outranks even death in the sr deff decks.could you confirm this????
ReplyDeleteSecond of all how about the trade / downside of this skill combination.do we lose alot of % when we tradeout wraith for the new cards????and not to mention the srare decks do we get a viable sr deff deck in the demon realm because of this????
They confuse me. I don't know what % the buff is, but yes they outrank a lot of their competitors.
DeleteI think our defensive deck will be improve in SR, we all know it can't get much worse. Unfortunately I don't think it will compete with Lancelot because of the buff.
If the buff only loses a % or two, we can expect to overpay greatly for the card.