So, why is it called a 4-6 if there are 7 enhancements by the time it's done? The reason isn't because the final form, the reason is because the lower forms.
In the beginning, there was a question:
HOW WAS THIS CARD EVOLVED?
And a player answered:
4max.
And it was good. Then the question was repeated:
HOW WAS THIS CARD EVOLVED?
And a player answered:
Using 6 cards I enhanced the last two forms before combining.
And it was too long. Then the question was repeated:
HOW WAS THIS CARD EVOLVED?
And a player answered:
6-2
And there was silence. This simple abbreviation, answering the age old question, how was this card evolved....made everything easier. The world continued to turn and player trading and clarity began to flourish. Players were happy and able to trade with the simple translation of the question, how was this card evolved. But everything changed when noobs attacked. Armed with wikipedia spewing forth their ignorance into the world of trading destroying what the community had built and bathing in the chaos that ensued.
So the question was asked again:
HOW WAS THIS CARD EVOLVED?
And a player answered:
4-7.
And it was vile, for this was not how the card was evolved, the card was evolved using a 4-6. The noobs didn't realize that calling a card a 4-7 merely answers a question that nobody asked, did you enhance the final form. The card was an fully enhanced 4-6.
But the noobs didn't realize the error of their ways, they fought on claiming they should get credit for that last enhancement. They didn't know that by constantly using 4-7 and 6-11 as examples they were killing the 4-2, the 4-4, the 6-2, the 6-4. And soon, the gentle 4-0 who never hurt anybody would be called to the stand.
And the question was asked:
HOW WAS THIS CARD EVOLVED?
And the player answered:
4-0 Because calling it anything but 4-0 would be wrong. For it is the worst of evolutions and deserves no number, for no number of enhancements were used in its evolution.
And the question was asked:
HOW COULD A 4-0 AND A 4-7 EXIST?
And the player answered:
They cannot.
And the question was asked again:
HOW WAS THIS CARD EVOLVED?
And the player answered:
IT IS A 4-6 BECAUSE WE MUST COUNT FROM ZERO TO SIX, NOT FROM SEVEN TO ONE!
And the noobs wretched and at the brightness of the words and returned to darkness hoping for the day they could come forth again spreading misinformation that they gathered attempting to destroy a community.
THE END
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you are dum*** than a thought.. hahahah..
ReplyDeleteyou don't call zero to six, but zero to seven, when a card is a 4-0 the final form isnt enhanced, when a card is 4-6, the final form inst enhanced.. and yeah, you should get credit for enhancing the final forma cuz it will cost more to buy the card.. its not about being a noob or a pro.. this is just logic..
You'd be mistaken here. And by noob is a term for new player. Only newer players use this terminology because they found the information on the wikipedia. 4-7 never became terminology until wikipedia updated their forms to call it that.
Deletesorry to use the word dum*** but you can't call people noob just for having a diffent logic than you have.. i wont complain when you say 4-6, the same way, i wont complain when people say 4-7.. youre are just using a diffent logic than the other people, but dont say that you are right and call the others noobs.. and yes, when a person ask about a card: "HOW WAS THIS CARD EVOLVED?", and you say 4-7 you are actually answering the question, cuz the person asked about THAT card.. and if THAT card was a final form full enhanced, yes, it is a 4-7..
ReplyDeleteIt's not about different logic. It's about logic that only new players use since they gained it from wikipedia rather than what was developed before wikipedia came about. It's a sure sign the player is newer and therefor a noob to the game.
DeleteLike everybody trying to push the 4-7 you immediately jump to the maxed version of the card. The question is how it was evolved, the final max happens after the card is fully evolved therefor has no bearing over what evolution was used.
The second # doesn't refer solely to how many cards were used. For example I could make a 6-6 that was only maxed when the cards were in stage one. This 6-6 would be weaker than a true 6-6.
The abbreviations for cards refer to specific forms and enhancement. It is not simply #Cards used and #Of Enhancements done. It refers to a specific method as well.
Yes, it is. You are trying to answer your question, you think that the conception of evolution ends when you combine the last 2 cards, but it's not like that.
DeleteIt's not about trying to push anything but to use the meaning of evolution to that card asked, let me say it again "THAT" CARD YOU ASKED ABOUT. Evolution means a gradual progress from a lower ground to a higher one.. to a better progress.
And, when you ask someone about "how did he evolve his card, how did he gradual progress his card from a lower ground to his its final result, you won't ignore, no, actually, you can't ignore the fact that his card it's not "just" a evolution of 4 cards but that he actually put an effort to enhance it 7 times, from the first card to the last one.
Like I said this is the logic that a talked about. But, if you ignore that, and are just asking the player if his card was made of 4 cards and he enhanced all the steps before evolving and are not interested in "his card" but a concept card that was evolved that way, yeahh, you'RE trying to say 4-6 and not a 4-7. And I can say that you are not wrong in your logic.
Hi Dumsys,
DeleteI totally don't agree with you! The numbers (4-6) clearly indicate how this card was evolved to it's final form. 4 Cards to evolve, 6 MAX enhanced before evolving it to the final form.
If you would call a max enhanced 4-6 a 4-7 then you are misleading people. Because you claim that you used 7 enhanced cards to get to the final form, which you didn't. You only enhanced the final form, what you can call a MAX 4-6, or fully enhanced 4-6.
sorry for my bad english, that's not my birth language.. so, dont need to tell me about grammatical errors.. thank you
ReplyDeleteI generally don't waste time correct bad English. I assume a lot of players aren't native speakers.
DeleteI know but I some people use that to criticize some opnion placed in there posts.
DeleteSorry for any offense, I wasn't trying to say anything like that just trying to make a point. And Thank for replying in the best way possible.
Don't know if I could explain it the way I'd liked to. And, I didn't mean that I don't understand what you said cuz I understand it all. I'm just not using the meaning you are using when asking the question.
Ohh, and thank you for this great page, you sure have good points.
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ReplyDeleteI just started playing RoB and your blog was the my first hit from Googling for a newbie guide. I'm hooked. By the game and by your writing. And the fact that you kept the conversation here civilized is absolutely admirable in my opinion. If only there are more people like you on the internet then I'd save more dying brain cells from reading flames and trolls.
ReplyDeleteI've learned quite a lot from your blog... great job and thanks!
Thanks for reading. I think it's funny that this is the post you say that on since it is probably the most inflammatory post I made.
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ReplyDeleteI simply worship how much sense you make and how it's not just me who feels that noobs, the two week rule, and the bazaar are bringing this game down to shit.
ReplyDeleteReading this is pure bliss after I see all uneducated, and braindead things that noobs and cygame admins do
I look at the game now and long for the simpler times when ROBforums was still active with people who actually knew what they were doing, and when i could trade with anyone I wanted
*sigh*
anyone else feel this way?
Personally my game time has been cut down quite a bit as a result of all the changes. This makes it very friendly to people who don't want to commit much time.
DeleteUnfortunately the thing I found most fun was the marketplace on alternate forums. You never knew while looking for cards if you'd run across an article you wanted to comment on.
It's a lot like just going to Ebay to find a comic book, or you get to walk into the shop and talk to the nerd about it. There is a personal element that's been removed from the game altogether.
It think it's sad. I also think new players are really missing out on discussions about the game that they never see because they never look at the forums. Overall, I think cygames is probably making more money but the end user experience is decreased.
Hi Lucarda,
DeleteFirst of all, thank you for all the information you provide on this blog. I find that the abbreviation used by you and wiki is a bit different from each other. I've come to understand a 4-6 is actually a 4-7 ( right? ) after reading this post. This is a bit out of this post discussion, my question is it better to get a 4-6 or 6-10(6-11 on wiki info)? The difference is only a few hundreds after max enchanced.
Yes it is. I use the proper 4-6 that the community decided on before wikipedia bastardized everything. The only reason it caught on was because buyers are stupid. Lets say a customer has a choice between douche or douche plus. They are the same thing but people buy douche plus because plus means better. That's why people started using 4-7, to trick dumb buyers into paying more.
DeleteA 6max is made in USA, well built product, that costs 100 dollars.
A 4max is made in China, okay built product, that costs 50 dollars.
People have shown time and time again, they'll take the inferior product to save a buck. As a result, go 4max if you plan on selling the card anytime soon, go 6max if you want to keep it for a long time.